Poetry Corner: Venus and Neptune

There is a concept in astrology of the 'higher octave'.  This is when a personal planet (Mercury, Mars or Venus), which express their energies at a mundane level, has a transpersonal equivalent - their expression becomes universal in quality.  In the case of Venus, this is Neptune.

Venus expresses love and beauty amongst other things - the extrapolation of these themes are universal love, faith, compassion and divinely inspired creativity.  Venus was born from the sea and Neptune is the god of the sea.  If someone has Venus and Neptune in aspect in their birth chart then their love nature will be coloured with an ethereal quality.  They may be prone to fantasy, self deception and unrealistic romantic dreams but also be highly creative and artistic.  Here is my own poetic contribution based upon these themes.

Seeing is Believing by Tony Vowles

Love is blind?
I take off my rose spectacles
Wait patiently
Now I see. 

Neptune provides Venus with the qualities of faith.  The difficulty for someone with such a contact is that they might be prone to 'seeing god' in partnerships - martyred type relations may be common where one person takes on the role of the protector or parent figure.  Neptune therefore clouds the Venusian desire nature ('love is blind').  It is important with such an aspect to separate fact from fantasy, the real from the illusory.  It may also be a requirement to get in tune with our own desire nature - to accept it for what it is and not allow fantasy to dissipate its importance in our lives ('take off rose spectacles').  The key is quite Saturnian in nature - discipline and realism ('wait patiently') in order to take advantage of the creative potential ('now I see') - by seeing, now you can believe.  There is a saying in Zen Buddhism that 'Zen is free, Zen training is not'.  With this aspect we perhaps want the freedom and joy without working for it.  And with love, you always have to work for it.


Picture Copyright Audrey Johnson


12 comments:

Anonymous said...

It might be illusion only, but it might be the time to understand how one really want to be loved...I think it can be one of the most beautiful experiences in one's life, commitments should be made after transit. Not good to make people be afraid of the transit, rather encourage to take most of it and to keep feet firmly on the ground.

gin said...

I once knew someone with Venus square Neptune. He didn’t have rose-tinted spectacles; he had rose-tinted retinas. To counteract this, we tried together over several years to fit him with spectacles with a variety of different coloured lenses. Trouble was, rose-tinted retinas + coloured spectacles mostly = grey. The exception being the red-lensed spectacles. Seeing red has its drawbacks. It didn’t end well. It began hardly better. The middle bit was off. Ah well.

Ellen Longo said...

Thanks, Tony. The more I study astrology the more I understand that Saturn is the key to getting the best out of many things. Maybe it's my age, but my appreciation for Saturn's function grows and grows. Thanks for your insight about love.

Karen from Mentor said...

Really seeing and then loving still. The greatest kind of love.
Nicely done.
:0)

Tony Vowles said...

@Anonymous - we seem to be in agreement from the words you quote - I don't know where you're getting fear from though. I mentioned the positivity of the aspect (and I'm referring to natal primarily).

@Gin - Interesting! You suggest accepting the fact that you're seeing pink? Or is it maybe that you have to see grey first to appreciate the pink for what it is?

Thanks Karen and Ellen :-)

Astrogirl7 said...

Ha! I have Venus exhalted at 27 degrees pisces trine Neptune :0 ! I have experienced both the gift and the "curse" of this. Dreamy, compassionate, unconditional love, creative, romantic, imaginative. I have also been prone to dellusion, being impractical, fantasy, illusion, etc. and those things can most definitely get you into trouble. I have to work at taking off the rose colored glasses, but it usually never works. Neptune really drags me in when its casts its spell!! Im a sucker for it!! Then I am left dealing with the disappointment....

Tony Vowles said...

I have Venus conjunct Neptune in Scorpio which itself is conjunct my descendant - it was the inspiration for the poem. Those glasses sometimes are just too damn nice to take off aren't they?

Astrogirl7 said...

Yep...gets me every time !

Gin said...

Eyup again, Tony:
“@Gin - Interesting! You suggest accepting the fact that you're seeing pink? Or is it maybe that you have to see grey first to appreciate the pink for what it is?”
In the case of this person with the Venus Neptune square, Tony, there was only pink. It was a retina basic, biological fitting, not a spectacle add-on. That Venus was tightly conjunct Saturn, and there was a lot of disappointment that the world did not act in a pink way (also, they very much desired stability and authority (VE SA) but then wriggled away in Neptunian deceit every time). Attempts by them and those around them to fit removable lenses of different colour over the pink did not work, as I said, it just left life a sludgy grey. Apart from the red lenses, which made the pink seem a deeper red. There was a lot of red, red anger there.

Anyway, must stop looking at their chart now, it just makes me sad (he died before he learnt to handle the pink retinas).

libramoon said...

Never mock at Eris
Lest Eris mock with you
Hers is a brave dispassion
You haven't got a clue

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*Star* said...

I have Venus conjunct Neptune in my chart too. And you know what? I love my pink coloured glasses. What if I am a dreamer? Who cares! I may dream about Love but I'm willing to work for it. ;)

Tony Vowles said...

Yep - me too little star ;-) I rather like mine too - brings out the hippy, the poet and the romantic in me :-)

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